(08-04-2016, 11:48 AM)cosmo Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 09:24 AM)orkalass Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 09:04 AM)metsin032000 Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 04:31 AM)orkalass Wrote:

(08-01-2016, 07:15 AM)ArcherQueen Wrote: For more than 7 months we have been giving the premium version for free to everybody and up until last week we had a free pro license key giveaway. But, in order for us to cover some of our expenses and continue with ClashFarmer project we have to add  fees.

You only did that to get a larger beta group to report bugs and gather data to fix them. You only started to charge for premium now that we have all helped to get the bot working well enough to be considered a marketable product.

Yes, we did get free 45 day subscriptions. Personally, I have reported a bug in nearly every public revision. I have responded back with additional information that was requested. The 45 days are just about up, and the bot still does not have core features implemented and working (eg, re-arming my village after an attack). I do not attack with dark troops and my wall is maxed, so I have no need for the premium feature. However, it is a bit disappointing to find out that my time was only worth 45 days, or roughly $7.50. I spent seven months testing your bot and reporting bugs. This is the least I have ever been paid for a beta test.

If a bot that looks identical to your previous bot didn't already exist, get constantly updated and improved, and has many features that are currently and have never been a part of the bot, I would put up with the bugs in the free version. Thankfully, such a bot does exist. Oh, and if I did purchase the premium version only to find out that the bot is quite buggy and has missing features (advertised features that aren't selectable), I would be Googling around to figure out the best way to share my experience.

Edit: Did you guys already change the way in which your licenses work? Originally we were given 45 day premium licenses. Even if I didn't use the bot one day, the bot still advertised the same expiration date for my license. Re-reading your pricing page, it seems you only use up days when you use them. So how does that work? Does using the bot once during any given calendar day use up one entire day? If so, which region is the authentication server set to, as that will have a factor on usage?

WOW how ungrateful can you be.Best bot out there and si they charge a small fee and you  cry

That is not even close to being accurate. Ungrateful? Nope. Crying? Hardly. $90 is a small fee? Sorry Mr. Richie Rich.

If you do quick price comparison between other Clash of Clans bots, you can see that  Clashfarmer prices are lowest by far and they have the best bot. (Believe me I've tried 4 bots before finding this one). Also, no one forces you to buy the $90 plan, you can buy also the $5 plan or use the free version.

(08-04-2016, 12:18 PM)ArcherQueen Wrote: Hi orkalass,
It says in the email in which we sent you the free professional license key that this specific key is valid for 45 days of use, and no matter what will expire at 10/08/2016.

Regarding the 30 days & 180 days professional licenses key plans advertised on our pricing page. It means that for example, if you purchase the 30 days key on August 4th and use the bot for only 10 days in August, you will have 20 days left to use the bot in September and all the months after. Only the days you actually use the bot are deducted.

Hope it's more clear now.

(08-05-2016, 05:31 PM)orkalass Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 11:48 AM)cosmo Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 09:24 AM)orkalass Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 09:04 AM)metsin032000 Wrote:

(08-04-2016, 04:31 AM)orkalass Wrote: You only did that to get a larger beta group to report bugs and gather data to fix them. You only started to charge for premium now that we have all helped to get the bot working well enough to be considered a marketable product.

Yes, we did get free 45 day subscriptions. Personally, I have reported a bug in nearly every public revision. I have responded back with additional information that was requested. The 45 days are just about up, and the bot still does not have core features implemented and working (eg, re-arming my village after an attack). I do not attack with dark troops and my wall is maxed, so I have no need for the premium feature. However, it is a bit disappointing to find out that my time was only worth 45 days, or roughly $7.50. I spent seven months testing your bot and reporting bugs. This is the least I have ever been paid for a beta test.

If a bot that looks identical to your previous bot didn't already exist, get constantly updated and improved, and has many features that are currently and have never been a part of the bot, I would put up with the bugs in the free version. Thankfully, such a bot does exist. Oh, and if I did purchase the premium version only to find out that the bot is quite buggy and has missing features (advertised features that aren't selectable), I would be Googling around to figure out the best way to share my experience.

Edit: Did you guys already change the way in which your licenses work? Originally we were given 45 day premium licenses. Even if I didn't use the bot one day, the bot still advertised the same expiration date for my license. Re-reading your pricing page, it seems you only use up days when you use them. So how does that work? Does using the bot once during any given calendar day use up one entire day? If so, which region is the authentication server set to, as that will have a factor on usage?

WOW how ungrateful can you be.Best bot out there and si they charge a small fee and you  cry

That is not even close to being accurate. Ungrateful? Nope. Crying? Hardly. $90 is a small fee? Sorry Mr. Richie Rich.

If you do quick price comparison between other Clash of Clans bots, you can see that  Clashfarmer prices are lowest by far and they have the best bot. (Believe me I've tried 4 bots before finding this one). Also, no one forces you to buy the $90 plan, you can buy also the $5 plan or use the free version.

The alternative, leading Clash Farmer bot is free and open source. As I mentioned, it is also more feature-rich and not plagued by bugs. Sure, nobody is forcing me to use the $90 version, but that is the cheapest version, when priced per day. Sure, I can use the free version, but you are missing my point entirely.

I didn't spend time beta testing and submitting bugs for the other bots. I did it for this one. For seven months I beta tested this bot, only to receive a 45 day Pro license, and to constantly be told that my bug will be fixed in the next version. Yet revisions here are far and few between. In fact, I'm still waiting for an update to fix the issue of a command line window being created every time the bot needs to start Memu. I was told weeks ago it would be fixed in the next version. I now have to wait months for the next version? If you can't see the problem there, then I cannot help you any further to see it.

The price would be worth it if: 1) Updates were constant, consistent and not months apart, 2) no bugs were present, 3) all advertised features were implemented, 4) options that the competing, free, open source bot does not have. As of right now, the only option CF has that the other does not is which order of troops to attack with. However, the other bot defeats that with the ability to use strategies and scripted attacks.

Please take not that out of respect for this community, I am not mentioning the other bot's name.

---

(08-04-2016, 12:18 PM)ArcherQueen Wrote: Hi orkalass,
It says in the email in which we sent you the free professional license key that this specific key is valid for 45 days of use, and no matter what will expire at 10/08/2016.

Regarding the 30 days & 180 days professional licenses key plans advertised on our pricing page. It means that for example, if you purchase the 30 days key on August 4th and use the bot for only 10 days in August, you will have 20 days left to use the bot in September and all the months after. Only the days you actually use the bot are deducted.

Hope it's more clear now.

Ok. So you guys completely changed how the licensing works, after making sure all of the free licenses expire in early August. Thanks for clearing up how greedy you guys really are, and how little you respect the community that dedicated their time to report bugs and features. You guys use the community to your benefit and then give them something that expires no matter what, and then change future licenses to not work that way. Awesome job.

(08-05-2016, 11:25 PM)orkalass Wrote: And you'd be 100% wrong. I have one account and one key. But thanks for assuming I'm a fucking idiot. Also, thanks for not providing anything of actual substance to the conversation at hand.

(08-06-2016, 01:57 AM)תפחד Wrote:

(08-05-2016, 11:25 PM)orkalass Wrote: And you'd be 100% wrong. I have one account and one key. But thanks for assuming I'm a fucking idiot. Also, thanks for not providing anything of actual substance to the conversation at hand.

I charge 45$ an hour if you wanna talk      

(08-06-2016, 07:29 AM)orkalass Wrote:

(08-06-2016, 01:57 AM)תפחד Wrote:

(08-05-2016, 11:25 PM)orkalass Wrote: And you'd be 100% wrong. I have one account and one key. But thanks for assuming I'm a fucking idiot. Also, thanks for not providing anything of actual substance to the conversation at hand.

I charge 45$ an hour if you wanna talk      

Wait, seriously? IS THAT SERIOUSLY YOUR RESPONSE? Because I must say, that is an amazingly low rate for psychiatric help in my area. And you know half my struggle already (Jewish mom struggle) so it's a win win! Do you take ButtCoins?

(08-06-2016, 08:30 AM)תפחד Wrote: Hahahahahahahaha <3 you cool man
Look business is business you cant tell people how to run their business, beside that CF team is the coolest ever, im not defending them as a mod i really dont have to, but as a CF user trust me you getting the best bot ever. changes were made in the whole CF bot and led to this, and its only gonna get better they working hard to make it better not worse. and in time im sure it will be proven. so jus work with what you got now and wait and see and no one can make you stay here, but im jus sayin you will be missin alot if you flip on us

(08-06-2016, 08:43 AM)orkalass Wrote: [quote='תפחד' pid='8350' dateline='1470472237']